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  Distinguishing Characteristic? (Just thinking out loud)

  by the pharmer in

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  although this is coming from a recent post on another thread by an individual who claims to be a jw, it is something that i have heard expressed by other jws.

  it is a supposed distinguishing jw characteristic:.

  ...and while they have not always gotten it right the first time, one of the things that distinguish them from other christian denominations is the fact that they are willing to abandon beliefs when they come to realize that such beliefs are premised on wrong conclusions.. while other christian denominations seem unwilling to adjust their theological viewpoints, even when they are presented with clear evidence demonstrating flaws in what are essentially the underpinnings of their theological beliefs, because jehovah's witnesses embrace bible truth, we, unlike what other christian denominations do, distinguish ourselves by championing bible truth over what we may have thought at one time to have been bible truth.

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  I appreciate all the thoughts and comments -- thanks!
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  Distinguishing Characteristic? (Just thinking out loud)

  by the pharmer in

  1. jw
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  although this is coming from a recent post on another thread by an individual who claims to be a jw, it is something that i have heard expressed by other jws.

  it is a supposed distinguishing jw characteristic:.

  ...and while they have not always gotten it right the first time, one of the things that distinguish them from other christian denominations is the fact that they are willing to abandon beliefs when they come to realize that such beliefs are premised on wrong conclusions.. while other christian denominations seem unwilling to adjust their theological viewpoints, even when they are presented with clear evidence demonstrating flaws in what are essentially the underpinnings of their theological beliefs, because jehovah's witnesses embrace bible truth, we, unlike what other christian denominations do, distinguish ourselves by championing bible truth over what we may have thought at one time to have been bible truth.

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  the pharmer

  Although this is coming from a recent post on another thread by an individual who claims to be a JW, it is something that I have heard expressed by other JWs.

  It is a supposed distinguishing JW characteristic:

  …and while they have not always gotten it right the first time, one of the things that distinguish them from other Christian denominations is the fact that they are willing to abandon beliefs when they come to realize that such beliefs are premised on wrong conclusions .

  While other Christian denominations seem unwilling to adjust their theological viewpoints, even when they are presented with clear evidence demonstrating flaws in what are essentially the underpinnings of their theological beliefs , because Jehovah's Witnesses embrace Bible truth, we, unlike what other Christian denominations do, distinguish ourselves by championing Bible truth over what we may have thought at one time to have been Bible truth. IOW, Jehovah's Witnesses are honest enough to admit when we were wrong in the early-1900s, in the 1930s, in the 1960s, in the 1990s, and today, and you know what? Our God knows at all times who it is here on earth that is doing their best to do His will, even when He knows we've gotten something wrong .

  It appears to me that if the following thoughts are true, then the above highlighted comments could not be distinguishing anything at all as it claims.

  I wonder if it has ever been demonstrated where JWs have not always abandoned their beliefs as soon as they come to realize that such beliefs are premised on wrong conclusions.

  I wonder if it has ever been demonstrated where JWs seem unwilling to adjust their theological viewpoints, even when they are presented with clear evidence demonstrating flaws in what are essentially the underpinnings of their theological beliefs.

  I wonder if has ever been demonstrated where other denominations admit they were wrong in a similar fashion as this person claims the JW denomination does.

  Another thought:

  I wonder if the statement, Our God knows at all times who it is here on earth that is doing their best to do His will, even when He knows we’ve gotten something wrong, is better applied to every persons as individuals vs. an exclusive denomination.

  Just thinking out loud,

  Pharmer
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  Is this not an easy question?

  by the pharmer in

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  i wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.

  if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.

  who is correct)?

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  Djeggnog,

  Not only have you been unable to reconcile your original conflicting statements (or been unable to show exactly how and why they don’t conflict), but you also have not addressed many of your mistakes or misinformation – some of which I have brought to your attention.

  I read comments from you in response to other people, where you tell them things like, “…perhaps you could benefit yourself by just going to a public library and doing a bit of reading up on this subject.”

  Yet, at the same time you boldly make statements and claims full of misinformation to me without addressing them once they’ve been pointed out.

  It doesn’t take much reading up on the subject you so confidently made claims about to me, to realize just how incomplete and incorrect your statements are. For example, you stated, “…there are no sharps in the A-minor scale.” If you assume that there is only one type of minor scale out there (natural minor), then in your mind you would think you are correct, but in reality you are incomplete. All I would have to do to show how incorrect your statement is, would be to ask you in terms of A-minor, “how many sharps are in the harmonic minor scale” or “how many sharps are in the melodic minor when ascending?” I could take it a step further and ask you what the difference is between an ascending A-melodic minor and the A-Major scale.

  Djeggnog,

  Please reconcile your original conflicting statements and address your additional mistakes/misinformation.

  Thanks,

  Pharmer
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  "All generalizations are false, including this one."

  by Mr. Falcon in

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  the above mark twain quote made me think about some of the comments i heard this weekend during the watchtower study.

  several commentors alluded to the seeming ignorance of "wordly" people as regards bible knowledge.

  comments such as "people who go to churches don't know the bible like we do, so they may go to church and afterwards say that was a very good sermon.

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  Does Anyone Know How To Drain Blocked Inner Ears?

  by Low-Key Lysmith in

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  i just got over a bad sinus infection.

  both of my inner ears are filled with fluid as a result.

  i simply cannot get them to drain.

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  the pharmer

  Low-Key,

  You have a PM
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  I should just be DF'd

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  so i have been texting with an inactive friend all day.

  she sent a text this morning asking me if i had had second thoughts and decided to go to memorial after all.

  i told her 'no, did you have second thoughts and decide not to go?

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  Truth - How obvious does it need to be?

  by Nickolas in

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  hey folks.

  i've been on this board for just under seven months and i thank all of you who have contributed so generously to my education on things watchtower, and quite a few other things too.

  not all of it was on here but it was through this board i've been directed to sites like freeminds and jwfacts.

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  Thanks for this topic Nickolas.
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  Is this not an easy question?

  by the pharmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.

  if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.

  who is correct)?

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  jgnat,

  That wasn't nonsense to me...thanks for sharing!
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  Is this not an easy question?

  by the pharmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.

  if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.

  who is correct)?

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  the pharmer

  For you djeggnog:

  Djeggnog...I don't want to sound rude, but...NO MORE NONSENSE! ...Please? :)

  Get back to addressing the conflicting statements you introduced in your answer to my original questions.

  Either reconcile all your conflicting information I pointed out, or show me how I am wrong that they conflict. Your failure to do so will just be evidence that you can't.

  Thanks!
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  Is this not an easy question?

  by the pharmer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.

  if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.

  who is correct)?

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  the pharmer

  jgnat,

  I like that analogy!